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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2013, 01:30:07 PM » |
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Ah Hah! Ok, you saw the message, that make sense. it all should be as we want it now. (plugins folder w/ lots of crap & your CR theme active) Thanks
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2013, 01:33:09 PM » |
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I'm not seeing the plugins listed on the plugins page, but let's try updaing WP to 3.6 as well... it won't let me do it automatically through the admin because you have PHP file operations disabled, but you can probably do it if you follow the steps and enter access info.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2013, 01:36:27 PM » |
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Yes, I'm usually the manual update type. that way if things break I know who to blame. I'm just finishing the package install of an ftp for you then i'll grab the 3.6 files and apply. I have done this ~1.5 weeks ago, but current site is this 3.5.X so wanted to keep things somewhat similar so reverted back after 3.6 made no difference. ~3more minutes please.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2013, 01:43:48 PM » |
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Ok, WP3.6 updated, and can confirm the WPDB page said database upgrade successful as well (didn't think it did much, but at least updated version table) And now my backend has signficant warnings. e.g.: Strict Standards: Declaration of flexMenuWalker::start_el() should be compatible with Walker::start_el(&$output,...................<etc><etc><etc>
You see those?
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2013, 01:47:54 PM » |
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Yeah, I'm seeing them... They don't appear on my dev site, which is currently running the same version of WP and the framework that you have. It's possible that the error is because you don't have a site/mobile menu assigned. I'm going to test that theory now. EDIT: It looks like assigning the menu wasn't the issue, but after a quick search, it looks like it's a server setting to report "strict standards" as an error, even if the error doesn't actually effect the operation of the site. EDIT2: it looks like this might be a good solution: http://stackoverflow.com/a/11429898/962998 (The answer with 11 votes that suggests an edit of .htaccess)
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2013, 01:58:26 PM » |
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Hmm, yes, the 5 google resutls I've read about this so far aren't very helpful, but have all resulted in some bug ticket getting created for WP/<plugin X>. I'd agree this doesn't look the "the fatal" problem, so assume we should try loading up some of the plugins and seeing what happens. Have a better idea?
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2013, 02:01:42 PM » |
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I agree. Just to hide the "strict" errors, because they're annoying, let's try that .htaccess edit in my previous post.
Then we can work through the plugins to see which one breaks the site. Just because you have faster access, I'd suggest that you start enabling the plugins and I'll keep refreshing the page until we find the one that breaks it... then we can try to sort out the solution... and whether the "bad" plugin is even necessary.
EDIT: I'd also suggest updating everything possible, just to rule out the chance of the problem being caused by a bug in an outdated plugin.
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2013, 02:12:48 PM » |
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Ok, I've done a mass update of plugins (via automatic) supposedly all were successful, but page dumped a boatload of warnings/errors (e.g. Deprecated: Function ereg_replace() is deprecated in /<Mysite>wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-pure.php on line 113
Our .htaccess solution doesn't work as expected, but will dig into that next.
EDIT: strange, I'm getting "All updates have been completed." but the page is still showing them needing updates... what are you seeing?
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2013, 02:16:25 PM » |
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Are you sure you're not developing on a Windows machine? The error I keep seeing about wp-cron failing fopen access appears to be a Windows-only bug ( http://wordpress.org/support/topic/fopen-cron-error) that the WordPress team has classified as a "wontfix" in their Trac ( http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/11831). I believe that .htaccess not working correctly could also be a Windows-related issue.
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2013, 02:18:58 PM » |
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Good gosh no! no windows boxes for me. Freebsd all the way!
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2013, 02:25:36 PM » |
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Unfortunately, I need Quickbooks and various other "Winblows-only" programs to run my company, or I would already be fully migrated to Linux. I am curious about the differences between Linux and FreeBSD though... is there a KDE variant? What makes you prefer FreeBSD over Linux? I don't have the dedication to install a "build from scratch" distro like Gentoo, but I do like Arch and other variants that have a "rolling release" model.
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2013, 02:45:25 PM » |
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ok, i can confirm all plugins are up-to-date. Strangely though, through this process somewhere we've created a 2nd, duplicate autochimp record that doesn't update & doesn't go away, but we'll just not activate the old one and "ignore" for now. In the meantime, i believe everything else is prepped & ready to go.
As for *bsd/*linux, personal wise, linux all the way. there's just better PC drives for linux distros than there ever will be for freebsd. Server side is a whole different matter. FreeBSD is generally regarded as the better performing/more efficient OS. it's not windows to linux different, but it can be significant. Their Jails are awesome. There's the whole license model which prevents some software from being distributed on linux systems. But there is no real bleeding edge on FreeBSD. it's probably more corporate vs wild west. if you like the whole "it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach, that's FreeBSD. But on a personal level, (esp because of quickbooks!!!) windows rules...
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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2013, 02:51:26 PM » |
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The second copy of AutoChimp is probably a duplicate plugin folder... it should be ok to delete the outdated one.
At least for now, I think the "WP Debug" option can be set back to "false" in wp-config.php, just to stop showing those errors, since they're just going to be annoying through the testing process.
So which Linux distro do you prefer then?
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2013, 03:07:07 PM » |
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Yes, well, don't see a 2nd it in the directory, but we'll worry about that in a moment. In the meantime, I have just forwarded you FTP. (sorry, forgot to his send a bit ago) I assume we can hit this more up tomorrow? i think it's your end of the day right?
Thanks!
EDIT: the more i'm reading, those Strict standards come on when in this debug mode. I've added this page to show you that PHP shows this as off (i.e. my htaccess is doing its job) http://<<MYSITE>/phpinfo.php
EDIT 2: ok, I'll start playing with this a little more. Thanks again for your time this afternoon. Sorry to monopolize it, but I do appreciate your support!
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2013, 03:10:56 PM » |
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Yeah, I have some things I need to do around the house this evening, so we can work on this more tomorrow.
If you're still going to be working for a little longer, I'd suggest just going down the list of the plugins you "need", and activating them sequentially to see which one breaks things. If/When one does, use the rename method to disable that individual plugin, and continue down the list, disabling any others that break the site as well.
Then, when we look at it again tomorrow, we'll have a better idea of where the problem is, and I'll actually have something I can do to help.
Have a good evening!
EDIT: Also, please disable WP Debug for now, just so we don't have to keep scrolling past those notices.
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